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GooberGubins



Joined: 03 Sep 2014
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:13 pm    Post subject: So... I was banned.

I was banned from this server today, right about the time the stat servers were being all screwy so I'm not sure if it has something to do with that or what... but if possible I'd like to know exactly why I was banned?

This is the server I was banned on: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/servers/show/pc/5b0a059a-5a25-40d7-b11d-d09e22ab8705/DontCamp-com-Dragon-s-Grab-Bag-Admins-Online/


The stated reason on battlelog was something to do with stats on bf4db.com. I assume whoever banned me meant the cheatscore or whatever? I'm not entirely sure how that works, or even what the website does but here is my cheatscore. http://bf4db.com/players/973800

So... yeah. Not really sure what this is about. Before I was banned, people were also slinging insults at me and nothing was done about it. Maybe one of the admins were just a little hotheaded? Apparently I'm a "Dao whore".
MTLMortis
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Joined: 25 May 2014
Posts: 515

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:02 am    Post subject:

You were banned after a check of the bf4db cheat score and seeing a pending report and suspicious stats.

Perhaps you can explain your 98.43% accuracy rating with a shotgun and 186 kills in 1hour of use? Or the 106.3% accuracy rating with the shotty 12g, 177 kills in 1hour of use?

If so then the admins will most likely review your case and unban you.
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NTolerance
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Joined: 13 Jul 2005
Posts: 1044

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:28 pm    Post subject:

Thank you for taking the time to register and post on our forums. In this community we are staunchly against baseless hackusations and for open discussion. So let's get to it.

1. Your weapon accuracy stats are extremely high given your lack of playtime in BF4 (less than 100 hours), and also extremely high compared to seasoned players who have played for hundreds of hours. Many of these stats are colored orange which are significantly higher than most players. Very good players may have one or two orange accuracy stats (in many cases they are all just green), but you have a much larger number of orange accuracy stats:



33% accuracy with the AK5C is very, very high.

2. You have pending cheating report on bf4db.com for this battlereport where your primary weapon was an LMG and your round accuracy was a staggering 40% (typical LMG accuracy is around 10%) with 21 headshots for 45 kills.

3. Looks like you played BF4 for a few weeks on release and then didn't play a single round until last month. Was your account suspended during that time? No way for us to know, but again it seems strange to play so little and achieve the stats that are being detailed here.

4. Looking at the battlereports we see a big bump in round K/D around 10 days ago. Going from around 1.0 K/D or less per round straight to about 2.5 K/D per round. What changed?

5. As Mortis already stated, on our server you had very high accuracy with shotguns. We know a player who is a skilled shotgun user and their primary shotgun accuracy is 77% (much lower than the numbers you were consistently posting last night).
GooberGubins



Joined: 03 Sep 2014
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:55 pm    Post subject:

The over 100% accuracy comes from hitting multiple people. I rather fancy using Darts on Operation locker and metro lol. It shreds the people that stack up on corners and in the hallways.

As for the time played, is there something wrong with doing good with a shotgun in the time I use it? I only whip them out when they are actually viable and I know I am going to mop people up. Honestly though, I think my stats might be broken. I know I've spent over 30 minutes on my AS Val, I've even been in games over an hour with it :/

I like to stay just behind the front lines and clean up the guppies trying to go around or through a chokepoint. The shotguns simply excel at that role when on Dragon's Teeth maps.

I did not know, however, that someone reported me. Found that out after I googled my origin name. Recon was my best class, so...? Seahawks and I spent most of our time outside, shooting the guppies that kept coming around.

Despite the ban, I was having fun on Dontcamp servers. The players were nice, for the most part, little to no lag, and active admins... I don't approve of banning someone that looks weird without saying anything to them first. It's not hard for someone that uses their head to get over 100 acc with shotguns as long as they don't hipfire, or get headshots with the *Recon* class. And the report, I probably know who did that actually. There was another player that would complain every time I killed him or got a multikill. marked4death. Dollars to donuts, he's the whiner that filed that report as he complained all game about me. I think handling bans like this, without any proof and taking an off-report and good, consistent stats to brand that person as a hacker is the wrong way of going about things.
GooberGubins



Joined: 03 Sep 2014
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:35 pm    Post subject:

NTolerance wrote:
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I somehow missed your post, I think. Very sorry.

1. The "Very good" players you're talking about are usually only "Very good" with a handful of weapons and, especially youtubers, waste alot of shots when they know they aren't gonna hit. I don't waste shots unless I know I'm going to at the very least, tear that person up so someone else can finish them. I don't get a whole lot of assists and I don't spray. I always tap fire or burst, and about half the time I change my firemode to single if I can. It's not hard to get good stats if you are TRYING for good stats.

2. The LMG was only my most used weapon and didn't count for the majority of headshots. The rest came from my sniper SRR(I'm assuming, don't remember exactly what I used that match) while I was laying outside on Metro. The LMG came out when I started getting a little pissy at the other team.

3. I stopped playing a fair bit because I thought the game was a bit too easy and very broken. Between the 20+ minute load screens, broken netcode, wonky hit detection, ect. I had a few too many games where I ended up screaming at my computer so I stopped until they fixed it all. I moved on to different games and honestly kind of forgot about BF4 until I learned that they were rebalancing everything.

4. The big bump happened because I had recently came back to the game after reinstalling. I was still fiddling around with my settings, learning how to fly again(Which I still really have issues with), and relearning the recoil patterns and different weapon damage models. When I had my sensitivity set, my mouse DPI just right, and I wasn't texting while playing, I started doing decent again. Another reason for the bump(I'm not really sure which you are talking about, My battlereports are kind of a rollercoaster in that time) Is because I only recently got premium. I was screwing around trying to unlock all the new stuff. Get a defib kill, 40mm, assists, suppressions, c4, boat kills, that kind of stuff. I'd tunnel vision and get the floor mopped with my face.

5. I have nothing really to say about this other than I dislike using the pump actions. I always ADS and rarely ever hipfire. I don't know how he plays, but I assume he runs around like a roided maniac, I don't. I wait, line up my shots, and mop up guppies. PC has too high of a skill range for you to really compare 2 different players. We don't have the same playstyle, preferences, or skill level. My methods simply work better for me than his does, I guess.

Edit:Typos, typos everywhere
NTolerance
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Joined: 13 Jul 2005
Posts: 1044

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:47 pm    Post subject:

We appreciate you taking the time to explain your playstyle and various facets of these statistics. While the issues with the non-shotgun weapons like the AK5C are left unexplained, it's moot at this juncture.

At dontcamp we strive for a fun and populated server that features teamplay. During your time on our server you caused our population to drop due to the way that you were playing the game. Whether you're cheating or not doesn't really matter when keeping our population up and the game fun is priority. Without a server population the money and effort expended to run a server is wasted. No player has the right to come into our home and negatively impact the experience of others.

Thank you again for taking the time to appeal your ban, but based on the circumstances the ban will stand to keep our server fun and populated.
NTolerance
Administrator


Joined: 13 Jul 2005
Posts: 1044

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:31 am    Post subject:

Looks like bf4db has reviewed and confirmed a ban here. Additionally it seems that EA/Fairfight has reset this player's stats:

http://bf4db.com/players/973800
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/GooberGubins/stats/861345624/pc/