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BF4 "netcode" indictment

 
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NTolerance
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:07 pm    Post subject: BF4 "netcode" indictment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C0COfAHHf0

Read it and weep. If you want to save time skip to the end where he's got the two monitors set up.
[DC]ClavisApocalypticae
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:55 pm    Post subject:

Literally just watched this 20 minutes ago in /r/battlefield_4. He makes a sound and compelling argument. and I hope the DICE guy at the top of the comment thread can make good use of it.

My only question is how is it that highly skilled, non-cheating players do so well? It would stand to reason that they are governed by the same laws of physics as we mere mortals. Are they so good because they've mastered the games shortcomings?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:01 pm    Post subject:

Regardless of what's working or not, you can play to with a style that will profit you better if that's what you really want.

If you are an aggressive but cautious hunter, your k/d will probably enlarge. If you are a squad supporter that sits back and provides health/ammo/spawn you will do well.

It's all about how you play.

The bugs just make all of this annoying as hell!
NTolerance
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:29 pm    Post subject:

[DC]ClavisApocalypticae wrote:
Literally just watched this 20 minutes ago in /r/battlefield_4. He makes a sound and compelling argument. and I hope the DICE guy at the top of the comment thread can make good use of it.

My only question is how is it that highly skilled, non-cheating players do so well? It would stand to reason that they are governed by the same laws of physics as we mere mortals. Are they so good because they've mastered the games shortcomings?


I think mastering the shortcomings is part of it. Thinking numbers here - a percentage of your shots just won't register according to the video. Solution - high rate of fire weapons. This is why the AEK and FAMAs are popular with some of those players. The more bullets you fire in a given period of time the more hits you'll actually get to register.

If someone has a slow ROF weapon and their shot doesn't register they're pretty much done in a lot of engagements. I run into this a lot when using shotguns.
NTolerance
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:42 pm    Post subject:

Consoles to blame OMGWTFBBQ?:

http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/1xmtbs/battlefield_4_netcode_the_real_delay/cfdbv4p
[DC]ClavisApocalypticae
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:50 am    Post subject:

Of course, they keep theTechnical Certification Requirements under lock and key...

I'd like to see a source on that before I swap for my Angry Villager load out.
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