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MTLMortis
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JoeSwindell
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Super Wabbit
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The US has decided that the 2nd amendment is an individual's right to defend one's self with a firearm. Requiring a license is viewed as a restriction to this right.
Additionally, you don't need a license to purchase a car, only to drive one.
In most states you are required to have a Carry Conceal Permit to carry a gun concealed. To get a permit, you must attend a class that teaches you basic firearms safety and educates you on the laws in your state on the use of deadly force with a firearm.
It is the individual's responsibility to learn how to safely handle a firearm.
I know it sounds crazy that anyone can just buy a gun. There are some states and cities where you do need to be licensed to purchase a firearm, or register the firearm etc. New York and DC are examples of this. If you want to own a gun in those areas, the government knows all about you. |
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ProfessorZ
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| Super Wabbit wrote: | | In most states you are required to have a Carry Conceal Permit to carry a gun concealed. To get a permit, you must attend a class that teaches you basic firearms safety and educates you on the laws in your state on the use of deadly force with a firearm. |
In Alabama the only thing required for a Concealed Carry permit is the yearly fee to pay the sheriffs office. (typically $10-20) 
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DogShxtTaco
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:57 am Post subject: Re: no license needed? |
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| MTLMortis wrote: | | the United States? |
As wabbit said, many state have their own restrictions. This is one of the few places in the law where there are huge differences from state to state, along with healthcare, fireowkrs, and the legality of medical marijuana.
| Super Wabbit wrote: | | I know it sounds crazy that anyone can just buy a gun. |
Well, except for children, the mentally ill, felons, some people with restraining orders, and some other stuff, yeah. |
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Dynamite Dan
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Major Jeaously from me here 
I'm surprised the UK hasn't taken guns out of video games yet and replaced them with harshly worded letters! |
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Super Wabbit
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Licenses aren't all they are cracked up to be. This person most likely has a license...they are piloting a 2+ ton death machine and clearly show that they don't know what they are doing: http://youtu.be/HYcsW48HHXM
Let's put this another way: It should be common sense that you should never point a gun at anything or anyone that you do not wish to destroy.
So I think the crazy part most people latch on to is that a person doesn't need to demonstrate basic firearms safety to purchase a gun. But, just because you have a license to be able to do something, like drive a car, does not mean you will not endanger other people.
Should we require licenses for pocket knives, machete's, swords, axes, crowbars, power saws, hydraulic car lifts or other such dangerous pieces of equipment? If you think yes, then you're not an American. That's okay though.
Gun ownership in America is an interesting one. Most people will get interested in guns, have a friend show them how to shoot. This friend will teach the standard firearm safety rules that we all abide by (that are not laws). Then, when that new shooter goes to the gun store, the staff will help them and included in the purchase will be a copy of that state's firearm laws and a pamphlet about the proper use and storage of a gun (in addition the owners manual). Information on gun safety is abundant. Aside from the internet, local law enforcement have an unending supply of material about the subject.
I've personally never heard of a story where a person with zero firearms experience buys a gun out of the blue. Legally, that can happen. If it does happen, we have to ask if this is a problem. Is there a rash of accidents caused by these individuals because they don't know not to point a gun at something they don't want to destroy? What if this inexperienced gun owner never hurts anyone, is it still and issue that there is no license requirement?
Gun ownership is not a casual affair. One does not simply buy a gun for the hell of it. Your average gun is going to cost you at least $300. This is not an insignificant amount of money for someone who is just casually into guns. To spend that kind of money on something that you rarely use doesn't make sense as a casual gun owner. Someone willing to spend money on a gun will be motivated to learn how to safely handle a gun. We don't need the government requiring us to do common sense things. It has enough real problems to deal with. There are even other firearms related issues that are far more impacting than not having a license to own a gun.
France requires certain levels of licenses to own a firearm. They are crazy. Here is a great article on the gun culture in France: http://www.thebangswitch.com/its-not-about-safety-its-about-control-and-confiscation/
I'll leave you with this thought: Almost every mass shooting event in recent history (in the US) was carried out by white males. Every shooting was carried out by a male. Why not ban all males from owning guns? |
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